Comments on: … does Zizek mean? http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/12/28/does-zizek-mean/ A working notebook Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:04:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: grumpy cat http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/12/28/does-zizek-mean/#comment-2323 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 08:26:34 +0000 http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/12/28/does-zizek-mean/#comment-2323 sorry about typos...am sleepy sorry about typos…am sleepy

]]> by: grumpy cat http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/12/28/does-zizek-mean/#comment-2322 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 08:23:02 +0000 http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/12/28/does-zizek-mean/#comment-2322 Hi Nate , i would like to start with the one on Mao. It actually presents Zizek arguments about both capitalism and revolution pretty well.....and it is about Mao. rebel love Dave Hi Nate , i would like to start with the one on Mao. It actually presents Zizek arguments about both capitalism and revolution pretty well…..and it is about Mao.
rebel love
Dave

]]> by: Nate http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/12/28/does-zizek-mean/#comment-2316 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 10:48:16 +0000 http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/12/28/does-zizek-mean/#comment-2316 hi Dave, I'm up for reading some Zizek together. His stuff is all checked out from the library, so something online would work well for me. Like I said, I'm not real up on Zizek, so I'm not sure where to start - how to tell more serious and important works from ones which are less so. A few options for places to start on Mao http://www.lacan.com/zizmaozedong.htm on Badiou http://www.egs.edu/faculty/zizek/zizek-psychoanalysis-in-post-marxism.html http://www.lacan.com/zizou.htm Articles involving Lenin http://www.egs.edu/faculty/zizek/zizek-a-plea-for-leninist-intolerance.html http://www.egs.edu/faculty/zizek/zizek-seize-the-day-lenins-legacy.html http://www.egs.edu/faculty/zizek/zizek-repeating-lenin.html http://www.egs.edu/faculty/zizek/zizek-can-lenin-tell-us-about-freedom-today.html http://www.egs.edu/faculty/zizek/zizek-leninist-freedom.html http://www.lacan.com/zizekfinland.htm http://www.lacan.com/replenin.htm http://www.lacan.com/zizeklenin34.htm On New Orleans and Paris http://www.lacan.com/zizfrance.htm Long lists of article: http://www.egs.edu/faculty/zizek-articles.html http://www.lacan.com/bibliographyzi.htm That's more than enough for a start, though if you've got others in mind I'm amenable. If not, how about we start with the Mao one? Then from there I'd like to either do the Badiou or the Lenin ones (or both groups of articles). What do you think? take care, Nate hi Dave,
I’m up for reading some Zizek together. His stuff is all checked out from the library, so something online would work well for me. Like I said, I’m not real up on Zizek, so I’m not sure where to start - how to tell more serious and important works from ones which are less so.
A few options for places to start

on Mao
http://www.lacan.com/zizmaozedong.htm

on Badiou
http://www.egs.edu/faculty/zizek/zizek-psychoanalysis-in-post-marxism.html
http://www.lacan.com/zizou.htm

Articles involving Lenin
http://www.egs.edu/faculty/zizek/zizek-a-plea-for-leninist-intolerance.html
http://www.egs.edu/faculty/zizek/zizek-seize-the-day-lenins-legacy.html
http://www.egs.edu/faculty/zizek/zizek-repeating-lenin.html
http://www.egs.edu/faculty/zizek/zizek-can-lenin-tell-us-about-freedom-today.html
http://www.egs.edu/faculty/zizek/zizek-leninist-freedom.html
http://www.lacan.com/zizekfinland.htm
http://www.lacan.com/replenin.htm
http://www.lacan.com/zizeklenin34.htm

On New Orleans and Paris
http://www.lacan.com/zizfrance.htm

Long lists of article:
http://www.egs.edu/faculty/zizek-articles.html
http://www.lacan.com/bibliographyzi.htm

That’s more than enough for a start, though if you’ve got others in mind I’m amenable. If not, how about we start with the Mao one? Then from there I’d like to either do the Badiou or the Lenin ones (or both groups of articles). What do you think?
take care,
Nate

]]> by: grumpy cat http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/12/28/does-zizek-mean/#comment-2294 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 08:35:36 +0000 http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/12/28/does-zizek-mean/#comment-2294 Hi Nate, my friend Naima commented the other day that "all you seem to read at the moment is written by Zizek" - i was sleeping after work (in a call centre) surrounded by a small book fort. The titles of these books included <i>The Sublime Object of Ideology</i>,<i>The Parallax View</i>, <i>The Universal Exception </i>, <i>Iraq: The Borrowed Kettle</i><i>On Practice and Contradiction </i> by Mao with Zizek's intro and the recent collection of essays on Lenin that he co-edited. Personally i think the longer books are much weaker than his shorted better structured punchier essays. It could be fun to read something together. I think maybe a shorter more polemical piece, maybe on of the on lines essays from <a href="http://www.lacan.com/frameziz.htm" rel="nofollow"></a>? Something relevant? Or maybe to look at one of his themes , say perhaps the question of ideology? rebel love Dave Hi Nate, my friend Naima commented the other day that “all you seem to read at the moment is written by Zizek” - i was sleeping after work (in a call centre) surrounded by a small book fort. The titles of these books included The Sublime Object of Ideology,The Parallax View, The Universal Exception , Iraq: The Borrowed KettleOn Practice and Contradiction by Mao with Zizek’s intro and the recent collection of essays on Lenin that he co-edited. Personally i think the longer books are much weaker than his shorted better structured punchier essays. It could be fun to read something together. I think maybe a shorter more polemical piece, maybe on of the on lines essays from ? Something relevant? Or maybe to look at one of his themes , say perhaps the question of ideology?
rebel love
Dave

]]> by: Nate http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/12/28/does-zizek-mean/#comment-2279 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:35:25 +0000 http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/12/28/does-zizek-mean/#comment-2279 hi Dave, Nice to hear from you! What you reading by Zizek? Maybe I can stomach reading him in order to join you, that could be fun. take care, Nate hi Dave,
Nice to hear from you! What you reading by Zizek? Maybe I can stomach reading him in order to join you, that could be fun.
take care,
Nate

]]> by: grumpy cat http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/12/28/does-zizek-mean/#comment-2276 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 03:50:46 +0000 http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/12/28/does-zizek-mean/#comment-2276 Hey All. I am at the moment trying to embark on a serious reading of Zizek - personally being a more of a Virno/Negri kind of person. Zizek, with Badiou, represents ,perhaps, the most serious intellectual challenge on the Left to the idea of multitude and its emancipatory democracy. The thing that is so frustrating about Zizek's critique of the Zapatistas is that it is not about the Zapatistas at all. Indeed the Zapatista struggle can be read favourably through a Zizekian lens. Rather it is an attack at the dream world of alter-globalisation movements and Negri. It is a bankrupt rhetorical trick rebel love Dave Hey All. I am at the moment trying to embark on a serious reading of Zizek - personally being a more of a Virno/Negri kind of person. Zizek, with Badiou, represents ,perhaps, the most serious intellectual challenge on the Left to the idea of multitude and its emancipatory democracy. The thing that is so frustrating about Zizek’s critique of the Zapatistas is that it is not about the Zapatistas at all. Indeed the Zapatista struggle can be read favourably through a Zizekian lens. Rather it is an attack at the dream world of alter-globalisation movements and Negri. It is a bankrupt rhetorical trick
rebel love
Dave

]]> by: Adam W. http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/12/28/does-zizek-mean/#comment-2266 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 09:37:03 +0000 http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/12/28/does-zizek-mean/#comment-2266 Just scroll down this link to find a hilarious pic of Zizek: http://www.higher-yearning.org/2005_07_01_archive.html Just scroll down this link to find a hilarious pic of Zizek:

http://www.higher-yearning.org/2005_07_01_archive.html

]]> by: N Pepperell http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/12/28/does-zizek-mean/#comment-2265 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:40:38 +0000 http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/12/28/does-zizek-mean/#comment-2265 I have to admit, I tend to have a similar reaction to Zizek - and a similar feeling that I do need to tackle some of his more serious work, as other people seem to find something there. So many things to read... So little time... And reading his more editorial pieces tends to evoke a reaction in me, that manages to push back the date when I tackle his work in a more substantive way... (Again, with caveats that I say this in effective ignorance of what he does, when he takes space and time to do it properly...) I have to admit, I tend to have a similar reaction to Zizek - and a similar feeling that I do need to tackle some of his more serious work, as other people seem to find something there. So many things to read… So little time… And reading his more editorial pieces tends to evoke a reaction in me, that manages to push back the date when I tackle his work in a more substantive way… (Again, with caveats that I say this in effective ignorance of what he does, when he takes space and time to do it properly…)

]]> by: Adam W. http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/12/28/does-zizek-mean/#comment-2264 Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:24:07 +0000 http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/12/28/does-zizek-mean/#comment-2264 I think punditry best explains it. While Zizek does do some serious theory work, in his political commentary he is best described as a pundit. CASH-money describes it all: I think the real difference with folks like Zizek is that we are committed to real political projects that attempt to enact the radical change we want to see (we are committed to a praxis and an outcome), while I think he engages in his discussion and critique without this committment (except his committment to CASH as you say, an outcome that we are so deprived of). I think punditry best explains it. While Zizek does do some serious theory work, in his political commentary he is best described as a pundit. CASH-money describes it all: I think the real difference with folks like Zizek is that we are committed to real political projects that attempt to enact the radical change we want to see (we are committed to a praxis and an outcome), while I think he engages in his discussion and critique without this committment (except his committment to CASH as you say, an outcome that we are so deprived of).

]]> by: Mike Beggs http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/12/28/does-zizek-mean/#comment-2263 Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:42:30 +0000 http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/12/28/does-zizek-mean/#comment-2263 Yeah, I fully agree about Zizek. For all I know his earlier Lacanian stuff could be great. But his ventures into politics and political economy are laughable. My impression is that he is cynical about it too, unlike a lot of capital T theorists. He's like the emperor with new clothes, but he's an exhibitionist so he loves it. The piece you mentioned a few posts ago was so ludicrous I can't imagine he meant it seriously. Still, the Zizek backlash is well underway. That Critchley piece was attacked all over the show, see Chabert's site for example. Yeah, I fully agree about Zizek. For all I know his earlier Lacanian stuff could be great. But his ventures into politics and political economy are laughable. My impression is that he is cynical about it too, unlike a lot of capital T theorists. He’s like the emperor with new clothes, but he’s an exhibitionist so he loves it.

The piece you mentioned a few posts ago was so ludicrous I can’t imagine he meant it seriously. Still, the Zizek backlash is well underway. That Critchley piece was attacked all over the show, see Chabert’s site for example.

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