Comments on: … is the relationship between dispossession and primitive accumulation? http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/02/28/is-the-relationship-between-dispossession-and-primitive-accumulation/ A working notebook Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:18:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: todd http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/02/28/is-the-relationship-between-dispossession-and-primitive-accumulation/#comment-1254 Sat, 03 Mar 2007 05:32:13 +0000 http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/02/28/is-the-relationship-between-dispossession-and-primitive-accumulation/#comment-1254 you really should check out the Kamunist Kranti stuff. Prim Acc isn't always total dispossession say. Workers in India often retain ancestoral holdings in the villages, and return there in times of bad unemployment, long strikes, vacations, etc. There the poverty is sufficient to dispossess without necessarily needing direct intervention. Simply put the land can't sustain them without irrigation which only 11% of the land has. you really should check out the Kamunist Kranti stuff. Prim Acc isn’t always total dispossession say. Workers in India often retain ancestoral holdings in the villages, and return there in times of bad unemployment, long strikes, vacations, etc. There the poverty is sufficient to dispossess without necessarily needing direct intervention. Simply put the land can’t sustain them without irrigation which only 11% of the land has.

]]> by: Nate http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/02/28/is-the-relationship-between-dispossession-and-primitive-accumulation/#comment-1237 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:21:52 +0000 http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2007/02/28/is-the-relationship-between-dispossession-and-primitive-accumulation/#comment-1237 some quotes to comment on later, from Capital. ch28 "Direct force, outside economic conditions, is of course still used, but only exceptionally." "Außerökonomische, unmittelbare Gewalt wird zwar immer noch angewandt, aber nur ausnahmsweise. " "the means which the labourers could use in a strike or lock-out were withdrawn from the laws common to all citizens, and placed under exceptional penal legislation, the interpretation of which fell to the masters themselves in their capacity as justices of the peace. " "wurden die Mittel, deren sich die Arbeiter bedienen können bei einem Strike oder Lock-out (Strike der verbündeten Fabrikanten durch gleichzeitigen Schluß ihrer Fabriken), dem gemeinen Recht entzogen und unter eine Ausnahms-Strafgesetzgebung gestellt, deren Interpretation den Fabrikanten selbst, in ihrer Eigenschaft als Friedensrichter, anheimfiel." "Gladstone in the well-known straightforward fashion brought in a bill for the abolition of all exceptional penal legislation against the working-class. " "Gladstone in bekannter ehrlicher Weise einen Gesetzentwurf eingebracht zur Abschaffung aller Ausnahms-Strafgesetze gegen die Arbeiterklasse." ch31 "Force (...) is itself an economic power." " Die Gewalt (...) [s]ie selbst ist eine ökonomische Potenz." The bit which I skipped with the ellipse is "is the midwife of every old society pregnant with a new one" ("ist der Geburtshelfer jeder alten Gesellschaft, die mit einer neuen schwanger geht") some quotes to comment on later, from Capital.

ch28

“Direct force, outside economic conditions, is of course still used, but only exceptionally.”

“Außerökonomische, unmittelbare Gewalt wird zwar immer noch angewandt, aber nur ausnahmsweise. ”

“the means which the labourers could use in a strike or lock-out were withdrawn from the laws common to all citizens, and placed under exceptional penal legislation, the interpretation of which fell to the masters themselves in their capacity as justices of the peace. ”

“wurden die Mittel, deren sich die Arbeiter bedienen können bei einem Strike oder Lock-out (Strike der verbündeten Fabrikanten durch gleichzeitigen Schluß ihrer Fabriken), dem gemeinen Recht entzogen und unter eine Ausnahms-Strafgesetzgebung gestellt, deren Interpretation den Fabrikanten selbst, in ihrer Eigenschaft als Friedensrichter, anheimfiel.”

“Gladstone in the well-known straightforward fashion brought in a bill for the abolition of all exceptional penal legislation against the working-class. ”

“Gladstone in bekannter ehrlicher Weise einen Gesetzentwurf eingebracht zur Abschaffung aller Ausnahms-Strafgesetze gegen die Arbeiterklasse.”

ch31

“Force (…) is itself an economic power.”

” Die Gewalt (…) [s]ie selbst ist eine ökonomische Potenz.”

The bit which I skipped with the ellipse is “is the midwife of every old society pregnant with a new one” (”ist der Geburtshelfer jeder alten Gesellschaft, die mit einer neuen schwanger geht”)

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