Comments on: … else do you have to do? http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2006/11/11/else-do-you-have-to-do-2/ A working notebook Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:34:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Nate http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2006/11/11/else-do-you-have-to-do-2/#comment-2131 Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:43:29 +0000 http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2006/11/11/else-do-you-have-to-do-2/#comment-2131 hi Karen, Some of the Notebooks are online here: http://marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/cw/volume38.htm hi Karen,
Some of the Notebooks are online here:
http://marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/cw/volume38.htm

]]> by: Karen B. Lewis http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2006/11/11/else-do-you-have-to-do-2/#comment-2130 Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:38:33 +0000 http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2006/11/11/else-do-you-have-to-do-2/#comment-2130 Well...I'm searching for a copy of Lenin's "Philosophical Notebooks" and am interested in pursuing a dialectical discussion of this and other works, as long as such discussion places them in historical and sexist context, and seeks to move forward into the 21st Century... Well…I’m searching for a copy of Lenin’s “Philosophical Notebooks” and am interested in pursuing a dialectical discussion of this and other works, as long as such discussion places them in historical and sexist context, and seeks to move forward into the 21st Century…

]]> by: Nate http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2006/11/11/else-do-you-have-to-do-2/#comment-1075 Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:35:56 +0000 http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2006/11/11/else-do-you-have-to-do-2/#comment-1075 hi Rob, Thanks for that as well. I like that metaphor of the comedian two night in a row. I'll have to see if my friend will photocopy that pamphlet for me, I'd like to have the stuff on Mao anyways. I'm a big Glaberman fan (glaberfan?). A bit of trivia, a friend and I met Antonio Negri at a conference and started talking to him a bit. English isn't Negri's strong suit and my Italian is pretty bad, but we both speak Spanish. So it was sort of a soup, language wise, but anyways I brought up Glaberman and he got very animated, talked about Glaberman and James and all that stuff. I thought that was pretty cool. take care, Nate oh yeah - Note to self: the Intro to A Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy is also pages 81-111 of the Vintage edition of the Grundrisse. That translation, the Nicolaus one, differs slightly from the one in v28 of the Collected Works. V28 says (page 48) that the introduction was written in late August 1857, and that it was first published in Die Neue Zeit, Bd I, #23-25, in 1902-03. hi Rob,
Thanks for that as well. I like that metaphor of the comedian two night in a row. I’ll have to see if my friend will photocopy that pamphlet for me, I’d like to have the stuff on Mao anyways. I’m a big Glaberman fan (glaberfan?). A bit of trivia, a friend and I met Antonio Negri at a conference and started talking to him a bit. English isn’t Negri’s strong suit and my Italian is pretty bad, but we both speak Spanish. So it was sort of a soup, language wise, but anyways I brought up Glaberman and he got very animated, talked about Glaberman and James and all that stuff. I thought that was pretty cool.

take care,
Nate

oh yeah - Note to self: the Intro to A Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy is also pages 81-111 of the Vintage edition of the Grundrisse. That translation, the Nicolaus one, differs slightly from the one in v28 of the Collected Works. V28 says (page 48) that the introduction was written in late August 1857, and that it was first published in Die Neue Zeit, Bd I, #23-25, in 1902-03.

]]> by: Rob http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2006/11/11/else-do-you-have-to-do-2/#comment-1074 Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:28:00 +0000 http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2006/11/11/else-do-you-have-to-do-2/#comment-1074 nate, the piece in mao as dialectician on althusser is not the same as the urgent tasks piece but they fall along the same line and may have even been written about the same time. i'm not sure. its kinda like when you see a comedian on leno one night and letterman the next, same stuff but the delivery might be a little different. but as far as glaberman goes he generally makes for some pretty enjoyable reading, he just speaks very plainly and clearly. some of his stuff is reproduced on the marxists internet archive and is of real value. he's up there on my list of people i read something by when i need to get my head straight, concise and to the point. peace, rob nate,
the piece in mao as dialectician on althusser is not the same as the urgent tasks piece but they fall along the same line and may have even been written about the same time. i’m not sure. its kinda like when you see a comedian on leno one night and letterman the next, same stuff but the delivery might be a little different.

but as far as glaberman goes he generally makes for some pretty enjoyable reading, he just speaks very plainly and clearly. some of his stuff is reproduced on the marxists internet archive and is of real value. he’s up there on my list of people i read something by when i need to get my head straight, concise and to the point.

peace,
rob

]]> by: Nate http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2006/11/11/else-do-you-have-to-do-2/#comment-1073 Sun, 19 Nov 2006 05:15:42 +0000 http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2006/11/11/else-do-you-have-to-do-2/#comment-1073 hi Mike, Rob, Mike, depending on Rob's timeline I may ask you to photocopy that for me. Rob I saw that thing on Althusser, thanks for reminding me. I think I have a printout of it somewhere but if not I'll have to print it out. I find Althusser a real mixed bag. This collection came out this summer of stuff where he's changed his mind on a lot of things. There are friends and comrades I respect very much who've gotten a lot from Althusser so I try to take him seriously. I never really did till I started reading the late stuff this summer. I'm more interested in some of his former students, and I've been reading him more for the back-story, so to speak. I'm really ambivalent about the whole "producing a philosophy for Marxism" thing. On the one hand, I really like philosophy. On the other hand I don't know that it's particularly needed and there's a way that that can be kind of arrogant. On Glaberman, do you know if his piece in the Althusser symposium is the piece published in Glaberman's pamphlet on Mao? I saw that a friend's not too long ago when I was out of town. The folks in the IWW that I know who take the STO pretty seriously are also into Glaberman and Stan Weir (who I noticed wrote something on James in the James issue of Urgent Tasks dedicated). Staughton Lynd, too - I just printed the letters published in Urgent Tasks that Lynd and Ignatin wrote back and forth to Radical America, that was nice to find on your site. I ran across a site recently with e-copies of a lot of issues of that journal too, a lot of real gems in there, as with Urgent Tasks. take care, Nate hi Mike, Rob,

Mike, depending on Rob’s timeline I may ask you to photocopy that for me.

Rob I saw that thing on Althusser, thanks for reminding me. I think I have a printout of it somewhere but if not I’ll have to print it out. I find Althusser a real mixed bag. This collection came out this summer of stuff where he’s changed his mind on a lot of things. There are friends and comrades I respect very much who’ve gotten a lot from Althusser so I try to take him seriously. I never really did till I started reading the late stuff this summer. I’m more interested in some of his former students, and I’ve been reading him more for the back-story, so to speak. I’m really ambivalent about the whole “producing a philosophy for Marxism” thing. On the one hand, I really like philosophy. On the other hand I don’t know that it’s particularly needed and there’s a way that that can be kind of arrogant.

On Glaberman, do you know if his piece in the Althusser symposium is the piece published in Glaberman’s pamphlet on Mao? I saw that a friend’s not too long ago when I was out of town. The folks in the IWW that I know who take the STO pretty seriously are also into Glaberman and Stan Weir (who I noticed wrote something on James in the James issue of Urgent Tasks dedicated). Staughton Lynd, too - I just printed the letters published in Urgent Tasks that Lynd and Ignatin wrote back and forth to Radical America, that was nice to find on your site. I ran across a site recently with e-copies of a lot of issues of that journal too, a lot of real gems in there, as with Urgent Tasks.

take care,
Nate

]]> by: Rob http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2006/11/11/else-do-you-have-to-do-2/#comment-1072 Sun, 19 Nov 2006 02:14:33 +0000 http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2006/11/11/else-do-you-have-to-do-2/#comment-1072 oh and by the way there's also a good symposium of althusser in urgent tasks number 4 which is up on the site. it has a fantastic article by marty glaberman on how althusser attempts to subordinate history to the communist party. i can't say i've read too much of the guy but what i've read hasn't been of much value and i know that he told the workers to go back to work in '68. but hey, he was pretty en vogue for awhile before falling into obscurity so its probably worthwhile to see what the big deal was, i'm sure i'll get around to it someday. peace, rob oh and by the way there’s also a good symposium of althusser in urgent tasks number 4 which is up on the site. it has a fantastic article by marty glaberman on how althusser attempts to subordinate history to the communist party. i can’t say i’ve read too much of the guy but what i’ve read hasn’t been of much value and i know that he told the workers to go back to work in ‘68. but hey, he was pretty en vogue for awhile before falling into obscurity so its probably worthwhile to see what the big deal was, i’m sure i’ll get around to it someday.

peace,
rob

]]> by: Rob http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2006/11/11/else-do-you-have-to-do-2/#comment-1071 Sun, 19 Nov 2006 02:08:33 +0000 http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2006/11/11/else-do-you-have-to-do-2/#comment-1071 I should be getting up that pamphlet soon (hopefully) it is a poor copy (no offense mike but that first page sucks) so that makes scanning it pretty hard it's been on the top of my list for awhile but it keeps getting moved to the bottom whenever i get something thats a little cleaner. but thanks for checking in and hope everybody enjoys the new html format we just threw up for all the urgent tasks, makes it a little easier on the eyes. peace, rob I should be getting up that pamphlet soon (hopefully) it is a poor copy (no offense mike but that first page sucks) so that makes scanning it pretty hard it’s been on the top of my list for awhile but it keeps getting moved to the bottom whenever i get something thats a little cleaner. but thanks for checking in and hope everybody enjoys the new html format we just threw up for all the urgent tasks, makes it a little easier on the eyes.

peace,
rob

]]> by: Mike http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2006/11/11/else-do-you-have-to-do-2/#comment-1070 Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:55:53 +0000 http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2006/11/11/else-do-you-have-to-do-2/#comment-1070 Hey there, I can certainly get you a copy of the "Marx on American Slavery" pamphlet, which was written by Ken Lawrence. I gave a copy to Rob and co. a few months back, so maybe they'll be able to post it soon. As for the readings, I'd love to participate (partly to figure out what people see in Althusser...), but I'm super busy these days, so I'll have to pass. Solidarity, Mike Hey there,

I can certainly get you a copy of the “Marx on American Slavery” pamphlet, which was written by Ken Lawrence. I gave a copy to Rob and co. a few months back, so maybe they’ll be able to post it soon. As for the readings, I’d love to participate (partly to figure out what people see in Althusser…), but I’m super busy these days, so I’ll have to pass.

Solidarity,
Mike

]]> by: Nate http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2006/11/11/else-do-you-have-to-do-2/#comment-1067 Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:46:23 +0000 http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2006/11/11/else-do-you-have-to-do-2/#comment-1067 Rob - I just ran across a reference to an STO pamphlet called "Marx on American Slavery." I printed out the symposium on it, reprinted/archived on your web site. Any plans to digitize that? (If not, maybe Mike from the STO history blog has a copy I can convince him to photocophy for me....) Rob - I just ran across a reference to an STO pamphlet called “Marx on American Slavery.” I printed out the symposium on it, reprinted/archived on your web site. Any plans to digitize that? (If not, maybe Mike from the STO history blog has a copy I can convince him to photocophy for me….)

]]> by: Nate http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2006/11/11/else-do-you-have-to-do-2/#comment-1066 Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:24:21 +0000 http://whatinthehell.blogsome.com/2006/11/11/else-do-you-have-to-do-2/#comment-1066 hi Rob, Thanks for that. Nice whatsits... coincidence. I was just this morning glancing over a copy of that "how to think" course, which I printed out a long time ago from I'm not sure where (Ralph Dumain's web site, I think). Some comrades and I have been reading some other STO material in another context, in regard to workplace organizing, so I had dug out my stack of STO stuff from a box in my closet and found the how to think course among other stuff. I would love to read through that whole course at some point. It would take a good long while, though, just to do the regular readings, let alone the suggested further readings. Anyway, thanks for the link and for maintaining the STO archive. Great stuff. take care, Nate hi Rob,
Thanks for that. Nice whatsits… coincidence. I was just this morning glancing over a copy of that “how to think” course, which I printed out a long time ago from I’m not sure where (Ralph Dumain’s web site, I think). Some comrades and I have been reading some other STO material in another context, in regard to workplace organizing, so I had dug out my stack of STO stuff from a box in my closet and found the how to think course among other stuff. I would love to read through that whole course at some point. It would take a good long while, though, just to do the regular readings, let alone the suggested further readings.
Anyway, thanks for the link and for maintaining the STO archive. Great stuff.
take care,
Nate

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